Cinescussion - Episode 11 - Cozy Films For Winter

Fall has officially arrived and soon, the harsh indoors-y-ness of winter. Is that a word? Well it is now. We decided to discuss some new films that we saw like Marvel's Eternals and The Harder they Fall on Netflix but we also thought it would be interesting to get into some of what we like to call our "Cozy" films and video games. Tune in while we discuss things we love to watch or play during the winter season that bring us joy and always makes us happy. I'm sure most of you have a movie, tv show, video game, or perhaps book that you love to experience over and over again, especially when you are stuck inside for the winter right?

Film Discussed:
Marvel's Eternals| The Harder They Fall | Harry Potter Series (Mentioned) | The Mummy | Who Framed Roger Rabbit | Last Night in Soho | Dark Souls | Starcraft | Lord of The Rings (Mentioned)

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Transcript

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Hey everyone, this is Dylan.

And this is fortune otherwise known as a restless mind on YouTube.

And this is Fortune's 35th Motherfucking birthday happy birthday. No,

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man I should have known felt like it just delete that whole section. I just want to delete that whole section and this is a birthday episode Happy Birthday good sir. Oh, happy Oh, thank

you here even though we're virtual today I'm we're gonna we're gonna hang out this week. So happy, celebrating and some fun stuff

that's holding it. I'm turning into an old son of a gun. I'm gonna use the old lingo.

I've been 40 since I was 17. So you're catching up to me? On 35 Cohen on 18. Wisdom from you, sir. I don't have much. Shoot, man. So we had

a busy couple of weeks outside of fun movie stuff. But I was able to get out to the movie a few times. And we were thinking about what we wanted to do for this episode, because we have a bit of a fail to plan moment. And as we were talking about it, I looked at the weather report. And you know, fortune and I are based out of the Seattle area. So this is nothing new for us. But it's that time of year where you look at the weather report the next 10 days is all rain. So

we're and I'm from Seattle, so when it's rainy, and all the leaves are changing colors. It's still my favorite holiday. I love fall, so I'm fine with it.

actually love it. I'm like whenever I walk. Like, I'm like a cat like

well, I like the sun. But I'm an introvert by nature. So like movies, video games, they're all very indoors the thing so I'm happy as long as I have like my internet and my Yeah,

yeah, yeah. Well, that got a thing and what uh, what do we like to watch? What do we like to play when we get to this time of year when there's a lot less time spent outside. So we came up with some ideas on some some cozy movies, some cozy games for the season. And also, before we jump into that, we're going to do some some impressions on some new films that we saw, because it was a pretty big release week for a lot of different things. And I will continue to be that way, I think through December as we get to kind of awards.

Yeah, it seems it seems like it's pretty packed with quite a few movies coming out. And then and then for me, you know, I'm a big screen fan. And I have no idea. It's gonna be good, but I can't help being hopeful. And that's in January. So typically January's where movies go to die. But apparently, there's one that I actually want to see that's been released in January, that score. I know, I don't know if that's I don't know if that's good or bad.

We wouldn't saw the Eternals a couple days ago. And this is you know, also for the sake of transition. And we saw the screen during the trailers for the eternal and I was like damn, you know, this looks really cool. It looks like they're leaning into the very self referential horror genre stuff like this one seems like it's all about callbacks, and that's, you know, kind of

dark seems darker to Yeah, it's kind of like the first two screams we're sorry good.

No, no after you have to.

I was just saying I one of the things like I still enjoyed scream three and four. Like they were okay. But like the first two I thought were better because it recognize the tone better. And it is a horror first with some comedic elements in it. And I felt like the third and fourth one at times almost felt 5050. And that was kind of my only issue like Sometimes it worked. And sometimes it didn't. Also, the same writer didn't write scream three. So he didn't write Gale weathers for Courtney Cox. He wrote Monica from friends, literally, that entire movie, you think you're watching Monica? And I'm like, What happened to Gail?

Like, sorry, good. Kevin. Looks like the writer right?

Yeah, he created the series. And he went on to do a lot of awesome things through that he had lots of TV shows, you know the following if you're a Vampire Diaries fan, he he started that with Julie pluck. And then he did like, get stocker and yeah, he had a bunch of TV series. But like he did scream, and if I'm correct, he was house sitting in. If I remember reading, I think he was broke. And he was house sitting for like a weekend. And there was some crazy situation in the 90s where I guess he watched it all weekend. It was like this weekend news report where there was like, two or three murders on a college campus and they were trying to figure out who you know, like catch the killer and at the end of the weekend, I think they did catch them or not But he watched it on TV and like since he was house sitting in this big house, he was like kind of terrified. And I guess that gave him his idea for like scream and in case people don't know I'm a huge scream had just you guys know I'm thinking about directing, like devoting a whole episode to us during the scream trilogy and maybe some West Craven because of the new movie coming out. So I might go into this a bit more. But anyway, the original script is actually called scary movie. That's why the spoof by the Wayans brothers. It's called scary movie. They changed it to scream later, but the original script was called scary movie. So

nice. Well, this is news to me. And I'm excited about it. Yeah, I saw the screen five thriller like you I was like, this one looks really dark. And I like they're making Ghostface seem really big and mythic. And they're having these really like epic shots, which aren't the other movies. And then it gets the you know, the title card screen. And that was like January 11. And I was like shit.

And the worst part is like, like a lot of things. I think it might have gotten pushed back just like a lot of things. So I don't know if it had originally planned to be there. But I think that's what ended up happening. But I could be wrong. I was also told that if you guys did like the trailer, or some people were saying they like the trailer, but they felt like it showed a lot of cuts. So he didn't get to see a lot of things. And from what I had read the way the movie is written. They had a really hard time cutting this trailer because they felt like there's no way to cut it without ruining something. Like you know what I mean? Like, because, because of the way the movies written, they felt like all the best scenes would reveal something. So So yeah, I don't even know if they're gonna make a second trailer after I heard that. Like, I'm wondering if that's just gonna be it, you know?

Well, that's exciting. We'll be there. And I think that's a great idea. I don't know, I never saw four. So it'd be a good time for me to revisit all that.

I think it's worth watching. Cool.

Go. So, the Eternals is one of the movies that I was able to go see over the last last weekend. You know, Marvel is my favorite movie studio, and I just adore everything that they put out. You know, I never have too many. Yes. Sarcasm aside,

I'm a and you hate Zack Snyder? Yeah, and I can't stand

Zack Snyder. Which actually, you know what? Visually, this movie did have quite a few reminiscent shots of Man of Steel, Justice League Batman for Superman. And you know, the way those movies love very digitally the problem not so much. Not so much CGI where the CGI is kind of hit and miss but I'll get there but more so composition, the way the Superman characters handled, you know, the sun's always behind it and the slow floating kind of epic moments. There's

all that sounds pretty Yeah, yeah,

the movie is very pretty. But going into my thoughts. I'll get my positives out of the way. In my opinion, the most beautiful Marvel movie I've seen in quite a long time, or at least I can't remember one quite looking this good outside of maybe, you know, endgame and infinity war looks pretty good. But this one seemed to have it's kind of a unique color palette, which a lot of them have the same color palette. The shot composition is really beautiful. And there were definitely moments of like really cool, big epic stuff. And that's kind of what I enjoy the performances were okay. Some are a little stoic or robotic. But that's kind of designed by design because the characters are stuck in robotics. So you know, it's fine. And Richard Madden is probably a standout the dude every time I see him in anything, he's he's awesome. And this is different.

I loved him in the body guard as well, like he's fantastic.

Yeah, yeah, he is fantastic. And the entire cast is really they have a lot of great chemistry, which is kind of fun to see. That being said, I think the script was really rough. I think I was really excited going into this because what I do like about Marvel is the big cosmic intergalactic larger world consequence type of stuff in this seemed like a story that was going to deal with a lot of that. And it insinuates a lot of it. That also kind of uses a lot of it as backstory, so kind of falls short. And also, they're just, you know, plot conveniences, and action scenes that should have felt cooler. The villain is back to being really weak. I don't remember. This might actually be the worst villain. I think that Marvel. Oh, really? has had, like he will. It wasn't offensively bad. But yeah, I was talking to Jasmine after the movie. And she she loves Marvel. And she was like, why was that person in that movie? Why, you know, what were they doing there? Didn't seem to have any point and I was like, I'm inclined to agree with you. You're driving home and usually like, you know, we're always talking about movies and we're driving home and this was like a brainstorm session on how we would have liked it better.

And I know Jasmine like loves like all things Marvel or likes a lot of Marvel stuff. So yeah, if she's criticizing that's, that's Interesting.

But that being said, you know, it falls back into that Marvel trap where I'm never really offended by Marvel movies, but I won't remember them. You know what I mean? And this is one of those, but when I do think back to it, I will think about how beautiful it was. It was a really pretty movie. So that was enjoy. That's,

that's awesome for Director closing then, you know, cuz I mean, hopefully that'll catapult her to other things, too. Because you know how it is like, whether the movies necessarily great or not, I mean, like, you can see good directing, right. So if she's a good director, I mean, that's good. Because I mean, I looked up some other film, she has some, like, I there haven't. They're not films I've seen, but like she has at least three films before this. I think I've heard of all of them, like one on the indie circuit or two on the indie circuit, I think. And then the most the last one was no mad LAN or something like that. But yeah, she has like three films that have all been rated really, really well. And I've heard that they were good. So yeah, yeah. It seems like

she's a good director. She was the second woman to ever win female director after who directed The Hurt Locker. Um, oh, Catherine. Catherine Bigelow. Yeah. Who was the first which? I really liked that movie. She won for The Hurt Locker. Yeah, she went over avatar, which is

like, oh, yeah, no, no. Oh, no, no, that's right. That's right now she did that hurt. Locker was great. I kind of felt like it deserved it. Like don't go wrong. I loved avatar. But yeah, her locker was it was pretty. It was pretty intense. Yeah, it was

really into character study stuff so you can show us amazing alien worlds that we've never seen him. We're like, Yeah, but did it go deep into the alien psyche?

Yeah. I mean, every every now and then when a movie does. It's interesting. Yeah. But like, I feel like most of the time it does not like That's why like a rival such a unique piece to me arrival. I, I honestly feel like this. You know how we were talking about last time how whiplash and Black Swans, The Black Swan, they almost seem like two sides of the same coin. Right? I kind of feel that way with like a rival in context, now that you've seen it? Like, it's not it's not quite, it's not quite the same thing. But I would put them in the same realm of Yeah, without trying to spoil anything, I would put them kind of similarly, like, kind of, you know what I mean? Like, I would kind of do that. Like, when I got when I saw a rival, there were aspects of it that were very contact for me. And not in a way where like, it was ripped off. I mean, like, I would put them in the same style of film for like, what you think you're going into, and then what you get, and how beautifully profound it is, and how much more interesting the movie is than you thought it was going to be based on the trailer. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like there's similar kind of movies in that way.

So they're absolutely similar movies in that way. You know, I think, last time but Denise, the news, the streak of films he's on is absolutely ridiculous. Ridiculous, all of them. Just good. Like his movies aren't just good. They're all excellent. Darrell, they are so good. And he's been able to keep it up for a very long time.

I agree. I feel like what the only other director I can think he's had a good string. But even he's, he's had a good string, but it seems like he's taking a break. Was it in your Aleksandra injury to like he did his he did his film. Well, he did. I believe his first one was a Mexican film, or I think that I heard it was like a master really good. But then he did Birdman. And then he did the Revenant. Like, he's another really, really, really good director. And I feel like since the Revenant I haven't heard of him making anything like it's almost like he's taken a break the last four or five years. Like I could be wrong,

but he made a Netflix film. That was really good. Oh, really? Yeah. That's a Mohandro you're out to get off to. I'm probably butchering. Sorry. 100.

Me, let me see. Alejandro G. nidito. I think it's an 82. But I could be wrong. It's something like yeah, I just looked them up. So because I was because I remember thinking about that. I was like, he was another one that was on a roll like that. And then after the Rednet I was like, What is even making? Like, I don't even know if he made me think so. Wasn't sure.

Nevermind, he didn't make a neck. That's flexfilm. I'm confused. Netflix is just getting everybody

interested. Okay. So after the Revenant, he did a short called Kanay he adding enough, and then a video shortcut for Nike. And now he's doing another film called bado. So I guess he is working on something. And it looks like this is this might be a Spanish language film, actually. It looks like it's all of a Yeah. Yeah, I think it is cool.

Very cool. Is my favorite movie of his Spanish language film. It's called that beautiful spell in Spanish. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that was him, wasn't it? Yeah. And then he also did. Was it Babel. Yeah, he did Babel, too. Yeah. He's not that good stuff. He

did some good movies, too. Yep. Yes.

I think Babel was the older one I'm thinking of but I saw when I was younger, and I thought that was an interesting movie.

I thought it was pretty interesting. So actually didn't love that one. But I did love his other word.

I didn't love it, but I thought it was interesting. Yeah,

same same. But yeah, I would say if you're a Marvel fan and you got to see the eternal is you're not going to catch any thing knew. But at this point, if you're invested in the story and need to know what's going on it, it'll be helpful to see the events of the story to most likely understand what's going to happen going forward. Makes sense. Yeah. And then I did not go out to theaters. I saw something on Netflix and then I called you and was like fortune. You need to see this movie on Netflix. It was a delightful little movie. Called it was

a really interesting movie. Yeah, like it had a lot of style, which I did not expect, like at all because I didn't see a trailer or anything. So it was a call. It's called the harder they fall down Oh, you guys don't know something happened off camera. It wasn't

sure I

might. I'll just say that I said the name wrong.

I don't remember what you said. But it was

it was there was absolutely. No, because harder and forward. I don't think whatever. Okay, the point is, this one was a Netflix Original. And I was extremely excited by the cast because I hadn't. I think I yeah, I hadn't seen a trailer or anything for this. But like when I looked at the cast, like it has a really great opening scene. And then it goes into like a very cool montage, the intro song. And I have to say one thing for this movie. The soundtrack is awesome. Like for real, like it's really cool soundtrack. But it has so many actors that I really like in it. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then I saw people I didn't even like little cameos from people that I didn't even know are gonna be in it, which was great. Yeah. But yeah, I love Regina King. I love lucky Stanfield. I mean, I, I do Delroy lindo was I didn't even know it like it was Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. Like it was awesome. And I mean, there's quite a few actors, actually.

But Yep, yeah, the cast was just going full cylinder in this movie. I mean, it's led by Jonathan majors who you probably know from Lovecraft country or he pops up if you've seen Loki, which I haven't even seen Loki and I know he pops up. So he just nothing surprised me more.

Starting to pop up in quite a few things. Yeah. And then eaters, elbows in it, too.

Yeah. You just Alba plays a Western villain. And if you just imagine yourself as a villain in a western, it's that. Yeah, it's exactly that. Yeah. Which is pretty great. I had no complaints about that. Yeah, it is. It is pretty great. But the entire cast has been on my favorites. Who both played supporting characters on the Evil game side in this movie. Or lucky Stanfield? Who plays a character named Cherokee Bill who's kind of the right hand Yep. Yep, Aegis Elvis character. And then his his left hand, so to speak is a character named Trudy Smith, played by Regina King. And they are

my favorite characters to actually yeah, I'm sad. Loved Regina King in this movie, man.

She's a blast. I'm a sucker for supporting evil characters in western films. I just think I think they're always favorite. Yeah.

Yeah, it seems like sometimes they're given the coolest stuff to like, you know? Like, I mean, even Darth Maul didn't say anything. But he has like the coolest character design. He had the best lightsaber fight. Like he's super well known means literally just the right hand of the he's the badass you know, he's the basically you know what I call those characters? They're my favorite kind of characters. I call them because of the right I call them the Mad Dogs. That that dogs that you let off the leash, essentially. And I love those characters very much.

Yeah, though. So the the plot going on in this movie is Jonathan major plays. Who as a young man is his parents are killed by edsl. This character in the story cuts some odd seven to 10 years later. And it's actually cutting to the end of him wrapping up his revenge for Yeah, which is interesting. Yeah, the game that killed his father there. They killed his father, mother and they carved a cross into his forehead. And, yeah, you know, we get to the point where he's wrapping up his revenge and he's preparing to settle down with a woman who loves He loves who is not having any of a ship because she knows he's not ready to sell them. Yeah. And from there, it turns out that the leader who he thought was put away in prison for life has been pardoned, which kind of puts him on this adventure to kill this leader in this new game that he's he's assembled called the Crimson

and not not to mention he has his own little gang that has been steal. They're They're almost like the Dexter for bank robbers they like steal from the people that robbed from the banks. Yeah, basically.

Exactly.

It's kind of a fun little gig.

Um, so the most obvious thing about this movie that is really cool and unique is this is an entirely black LED cast with a black director and the entire setting that they put in the West is, it's incredible to see it's really, really cool. And the combination of language and music and just all of it is beautiful. In fact, there's a there's a really funny scene where they need to go to a white town

I have to stay I have to just say, Guys, just before we get there, do you mind if I just interject with something? Please? Okay. Okay. So the opening lets you know kind of what you're in for. Because essentially, there are two opening scenes back to that, basically. And what's interesting about it, in my opinion, is that the first opening scene is very thematic and dramatic and a lot of it's like a one shot that leads to something. And it's just really well direct. It's, it's, it's really well done, right. And second scene is rolled into but it's not what you think like, it's like the first scene until someone starts getting shot. And then it becomes like this, super pulpy. And like I literally, I loved it. I actually loved it. And I remember going to look up the director, because I'm like, I don't know who this director is, but I'm 100% certain that they're a huge Quentin Tarantino fan. And so mine was like, and his name's James Samuel like it. Yeah. Jim is I think it's James Samuel Jameson. But yeah, like, like, yeah, and I'll just say that I feel like the fact that it's this block blood cast, and it's like, it's it basically comes off. It's basically like, almost like an alternate history kind of story. Like, you know, like, it's really cool. Like, I thought the way they did it, without trying to explain it or set it up. They just did it like that. That's just it. You're in the world. You're getting the hang of it. Yeah. And yeah, like, it's really, um, I feel like it's very immersive very quickly, which I like,

Yeah. I agree. And I like the introductory cards, the film is, character characters were real. This story is, which was really fun to be with to start. Yeah, like Western icons that were actually around that time and start learning a bit about him. It was really Yeah, to dig through Google and all that.

Yeah, it's basically tries to juggle both like an actual dramatic, like, you know, action, spaghetti western with also being kind of campy to like, I feel like it succeeds sometimes. And doesn't it others, but like, you know, sometimes they walked balance pretty well at different points in the movie. It's pretty cool.

Yeah, um, you know, it's funny, I do have a handful of critiques for this movie. But at the same time, you're talking about this a little I'd like, I'm looking forward to hearing yours. Because even though I do have critiques, like, we were talking about this before, like, as I walked away, like, I was just sitting there, like, That movie was so fucking fun. Like, it was just, it was really fun to watch. There were some stupid plot conveniences, and some weird kind of decisions with actions like the tone can be all over the place. But I think all the actors were just having such a blast. I think in fact, everybody was so good that it made it feel like there were too many characters. Like I just wanted to spend more with somebody, because everybody was so interesting, which is a good anime. Yeah, you know what I mean?

Yeah, I felt like I think I think we were talking slightly before this. And we had mentioned that like, directing Was there some really cool stuff. It has a lot more style than I expected, which was cool. Also, like I said, I love the soundtrack. I love it. That's not like the split it's not like really a spaghetti western music most of the time. It's like this hip hop rap kind of it really goes well and some of the like really sick rap music that's going on with like some of their like, almost like villain introduction or or hero introduction like riding on horses. It's badass. Yeah, fucking thing. Is like I love like, dude, modern westerns, let's go.

Out of that gets out of prison was so Exactly. So

exactly, dude. The train sequence was one of my favorite sequences in the whole thing. And honestly, the way that's written that's why I'm like this writer, director likes quits and turns like, I'm just being honest. He does. Like and I don't mean that in a necessarily a bad way. You know, like, people influence people. Like, when I finally finished the first feature, I'm sure there'll be some turns, you know, as moments because I love him too. I like conversation. I like exploring things through scripts. And I like that he's not afraid to have a dialogue in the middle of the movie. You know, like, I like that. So, yeah, the train sequence was lucky Stanfield. It was worth it. I love lucky Stanfield. I wanted to see more of him. Like, like no doubt throughout the movie, I felt like after that scene, he's more just kind of quiet, you know?

As you see, he's sassy like he really does. He's for sure putting this, this plot in action. And you get this feeling that he's kind of the, you know, the bad guy with a code. Like he does bad things, but he follows a certain moral system. And then you get halfway through the movie and you're like, No, he doesn't

know he doesn't at all. Like, like, as a matter of fact, like that's one of my gripes, writing wise, like, they foreshadowed it so much that this group of villains, they cheat at everything they do, there isn't a single fair moment ever. Like if there's a fight that's supposed to happen someone hand someone a gun for him to you. Like it's never fair. So some of the moments at the end that are tried to be put that are they're trying to play off as like a chromatic. Oh, my God moment. None of them work. Yeah, unfortunately, because you're like, you know, what's gonna happen? Because you've seen all this? Yeah. So, you know, it almost would have been better if you didn't show us all that so that we were actually surprised when it happens. And then your question wondering, wait, did he cheat now? Or is his legend just a lie? Like? Like, it could have been more interesting, you know, or whatever. But yeah, yeah, I don't know. I feel like most of my gripes about this film are all writing because the cast is, for the most part, phenomenal. There's one actor that I didn't love. But like, overall, the cast is phenomenal. And I agree with what you said, like they cared a lot of the film because, like the moments of the film that are like, really cheesy to the point where, unfortunately, they're actually kind of bad. Like, it's still kind of enjoyable because the performance or even if it's a bad scene, the actors are still giving it their all. Like, it's like the scene before it was like legitimately awesome, and really good. And then this scene, writing wise is actually kind of terrible. But the actors are still trying their asses off. So it's a really bad scene, but I end up laughing a lot. Like normally when something's really bad, my mind goes, Oh, and I'm just kind of irritated ya know, cuz I'm like, but in this case, I'm just like,

oh you're one of those that actually it was funny because it started and then it sort it started kind of good. And then it's circled around a dumb and then the actor. So well, it's circled back around a badass is the scene near the end of the movie before they have the final confrontation. Redwood, Redwood City and they're in their camp, and they're preparing and somebody starts singing a song. Oh, final shot. Jonathan majors and he starts and he just puts or being into that last line gearing up and I was like, This is so bad. It's good that it's bad. It's good.

But then the problem with that scene, though, is I was enjoying it kinda. And then I kind of was like, Oh, now it's cheesy, but that for me it ended on cheese again, because like he started singing I liked it. But then it just stayed on this really weird shot where he looks at the camera and it looks so corny. It's like no, you shouldn't have gone with that angle man. Like he should not have gone John Major cuts away like Oh, no. He can't he can't say no, I

didn't. My last and I thought it was right but it kind of added up was a lot of the movie takes place in the city. I mentioned Redwood City, which is cool but damn if it doesn't look obviously like I said

it so does and unfortunately they did this really bad idea which it's a cool idea. But there's a shot where they actually track for the whole town and they should not have Yeah, I was literally like No, you shouldn't have done that on this set. Like no and then the other I think another issue I have it's not really an issue but another thing that I think makes it look also like a set is it's too clean. Yeah, if that makes sense. Like like for a Western it is like everything inside is super even the opening scene to beautiful set but I was like all those vegetables are like shiny like the walls are clean. Like it's too clean for that time. You know, like it just it just doesn't It doesn't always come up believable even if it looks pretty Yeah, you know, like, it's just kind of like, okay, so maybe the director just went for a clean look, you know, but like, but like in the city you know? It doesn't help that set looks more real like and so like in some places when it's not like a wide it might pass but like the moment you get like a wide down the street you're like, Huh.

But you know what, at the light of day, do I want to see Regina King and a black bowler cap and a long black duster? While evil shit again? Absolutely. I'm probably gonna watch this movie again. I thought it was a blast. I

and you asked my opinion earlier I would say I'm not. I almost feel kind of like I did at the end of, of malignant where it's like, there are parts of it. I like so much that I I can't forget them. And it's just so much fun, right? Yeah. And then there are parts of it that are so cheesy was actually kind of bad at like, really bad at point. Yeah. But they're like malt but they're like moments. And then the next thing might be good though. So it's like, I can't dwell on it too long. So it's weird because it like you said, it's a really fun movie. Like, at the end of the film, I did feel like I had a lot of fun, but I can't say that I liked it. But I can't say that, either. So I'm like, I'm like, Leftenant state where like, I guess the question is what I watched it again, and I'm like, Yes. And so I would, I would recommend it for sure. Like, just cuz it is fun. And they definitely gave it their all for sure. And I The acting is pretty great. Like, I there's one person I thought was really wooden. But I won't say who it is. I'll let y'all see if you feel the same way. But pretty much the cast is great. And, and my main issue is, I feel like you can start seeing the story issues. Like as you get halfway through I think I told you there's like a character. Yeah, I'll just say I think is was wooden. There's a character that makes a decision halfway, like near the end of the second act, and you're just like, even as they're saying it, you're literally like, why this doesn't make any sense. Like, like, this isn't even like a bad plan. It's not a plan. This is like, saying, I'm gonna go play basketball and on your way there. You walk into a saloon and then lay down in the backroom with someone you don't know. Like, I mean, it's like that random room, but it's like, you're literally like, what's the end game with this? Like, I don't understand, and you're going in alone. So it's actually pointless, because you have no leverage, no like it. And then you realize, oh, this just happened to set up the third act. That's basically the whole thing. And I was like, so like moments like that really make me roll my eyes. And those are the moments where I can't it can't recover from being too corny that it's good, because it's just really bad writing. But yeah, then, but then after that, you get into moments that are just genuinely fun again, and you're just like, ah, like, I don't know what to say, like, I'll watch it again. Like, that's what I will

do. When it got to that point, I actually thought it was such a bad plan that I was like, Oh, they're gonna like double across the audience. And there's actually going to be something No, no, it was.

No, it was actually that it was actually that bad. And the moment towards the end, I think I'll told you about where I was really like, Oh, God, they're gonna do this or this. And I'm like, I'm like, Why is there no shooting? And then I'm like, No, don't do it. It's like, it's like, as lean towards you. You're like, Don't you say? You're like, ah, for me, you're like, Oh, my

God, like that scene

was so cliched bad. But at the same time, the performance was great. And that's another reason why it's so hard because the performance was legitimately good. It's like, it's like Leonardo DiCaprio acting out like a really shit script. Like, there's moments of the script that are genuinely really cool. Like, there's some lines I loved in this movie. Like, there's, there's quite a few memorable lines actually, like, yeah, and that's why I met an impasse I would I recommend it. Hell yes. Because it's interesting. When I say it's good. I don't know. Like, no, I just know that. It's worth it's worth a watch. For sure. It's fun. I'll say that it is fun. Yep.

And all I know is that I'm excited to see what James Samuel does next. Because he seems awesome. Yeah, I'm seen as really awesome. Yeah. And he is very, very bearish. So to see someone who grew up in London, he really would be Yeah. So I'm just I'm happy it exhausts.

I actually didn't know that cool. I actually had the director was I don't know he was very cool. He was probably super inspired by other stuff to them like Sergio Leone, and a lot of this Italian westerns.

Oh, yeah, this movie has so many Sergio Leone references there quintard But I mean, yeah, like these are all Sergio Leone references anyway, so

yeah, that's what I mean key like Sergio Leone's like I think one of his favorite classic directors, so yeah, that works but yeah, it's all up it's all a vacuum. Yeah.

Well, I'm happy that sounds like we kind of thought similarly of it. We thought it was fun. Yeah, issues but so fun that the issues were like, meaningful but also meaningless, but also meaningful.

Yeah, seeing seeing see seeing Regina King as a badass Cow, cow, boy or cow girl. Yeah, but you've been a badass villain in a western like I I love and I love the do rag like down backwards. I thought that was so cool. Like, I loved it so much. Like I thought her style was so cool. She almost like could come out of like a really cool graphic novel comic book, like, like, you know, like, just really cool.

This movie felt like a novel actually, that's a really good way it kind of did. You felt a lot like Yeah,

it kind of does because of because of its pulp Enos in the way some things are handled. Like some of the writing is corny, but it's almost like if that were a graphic novel, you'd almost say expect that, you know, but like, like how some things and animes are cool when you're watching the anime, but if you were thinking about somebody say that out loud that would be really corny but it's cool for the anime because you know the the medium, right like Exactly, yeah, it's it's weird, exact I love Regina King Mo too. So I'm a, I have a bias. I've always loved Virginia King. She's awesome. So,

um, you know, I want to do one more quick impression of a movie that we're gonna deep dive next week because you have a chance to see it. Yeah, sure. But also, before I do, I want to hear an impression from you because I got to talk a little bit about dune the other week, but now you've had a chance to see dune too, and you've had a chance to settle in for a little bit and I just thought of this I guess after sitting on that movie for a week.

I thoroughly enjoyed it. I remember you telling me that it was incredibly the word you used was immersive. Yeah. And I think that that's a very good word. It's I have to admit I've actually never seen Timothy shallow may I've heard great things about him but I think all the dramas he's been in the last few years I I'm quite behind on on. Like I said, I've been watching a lot of TV shows and many series's. So I kind of fell behind on movies to be honest. And this was my first time seeing him. And I actually thought it was pretty great. It's it's kind of a little bit more of a stoic character. But I feel like for the kind of person he's playing with the type of responsibility that he has, I kind of liked the way that he played it. And this is also coming from someone who I've never read the books and I've never seen the original film or the miniseries. So I legitimately don't know anything about the story. I just know sci fi. There's like a desert planet. And there's giant worms lately, because, you know, you see that you see the cover and everything right? That's all I knew. Yeah. It is definitely more of a political film. So I could see if you're someone that just wants, like, transformers, you know, you just want a lot of action. Maybe it's not for you. But I feel like if you care about like a really, really elaborate story. I think it's quite good. I really, really liked it, I thought, I also feel like there's a lot they had to try to cover through exposition, and I felt like the way they handled it. Yes, it is. It is heavy exposition at points, but I feel like it's very needed based on how much information they're trying to give you in essentially what's the first part of a two part film event? Yeah. So clearly, I imagined the second one is going to be very action packed and very climactic based on this film. But even this film, it had some pretty good action scenes. I would say the fight choreography is good and nothing blew me away. But it was good. Nothing about it was bad. Really well shot though. Yeah, um, because Denny Villeneuve is great. I liked all of the characters. I was actually surprised I liked all of the characters. Like, I feel like Jason Momoa is just so lovable at all times. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what character he plays. It's like you better put him in a low role where we're all just gonna love this guy. Yeah. Because he's, it's just gonna happen. You know, like, he's awesome. He's a great character. I love Oscar Isaac, I always had so I loved actually loved the role that he played. And of course, you know, I love Rebecca Ferguson. I love her. Like, I've loved her and everything she's in. And even though it's not necessarily my favorite movie, I loved her character and Doctor sleep. I wish I could see. Yeah, dude, I could see an entire movie with her. Yeah, like, I would love to just be back with that character. The way she played it. It's so I don't even know how to describe it. Like, it's like, everything was this new discovery. And she was in this space that no one else was in. And everything was magnificent. And everything was magical. But she was evil. Like, it was like, it was so cool. I like it. Ah, I just I love it. Yeah, well, yeah, like, it's like the casting for Dune was great. I thought the way the sandworms I felt like that created is more of like a presence to be weary of in the film. Like, what happens with them doesn't seem very climactic or monumental. And I know some people were upset about that. But I imagined based on where the story's going, that it literally says dune part one at the beginning. Yeah, like I feel like, like the people that want the action aspects. I feel like they're gonna get all of it in the second one. From my experience, from what I've what, from what I deemed from this movie, I really liked it, but it feels like the reason they call that part one at the beginning is to be very transparent about that. It's not a complete product. Like yeah, it does work as an arc on its own. But it clearly seems like this is one of those situations where you probably want to have a doom day. You don't watch both of them. Like it seems like that's that's what it is. But theaters nowadays won't pay for five hour long movies like nowadays. No, they won't. So especially during

finally got Yeah, it was great. Finally, but during the time of our life, it was Yeah, it wasn't greenlit yet. That would be like seeing Fellowship of the Ring or Kill Bill part one. It was movies were made in COVID. It'd be in the same situation where it's like I really hope this makes its money back. You know what I mean?

Yeah, because I really need my part two because I love this so much and imagine it not happening, right? That would be awful. Yeah. Especially something that does have a great setup like this, some of the tech and everything's the another thing I like about Dyneema love. And he did this with a rival to I like stylized really pretty visual effects and stuff I do. And they do work for some movies. But I feel like the only negative about those is that they're beautiful, but they never look real. They look cool, but they never look real, if that makes sense. Didn't even love always goes for like photo realism and his movies. That's his style. And I really appreciate it because like stuff, CG that, you know, is CG because it kind of has to be because of the color grade and everything. It really does blend to the environment. A lot of stuff looks really real in this film. Yeah, like for real, like, it's actually really impressive. And I kind of like that. And for me that with good performances and like, but those kind of choices are what makes it immersive for me, you know what I mean? But like, that's what makes it immersive for me. So I I thoroughly enjoyed it. Like, yeah, that's basically I'm coming back to it, because I don't want to spoil too much because it did just come out. And there is a second part. So I feel like even though it's been out for a couple weeks now since there is a part two coming, I really don't want to spoil anything, you know what I mean? So yeah, but I would say I would strongly recommend watching Doom, I think it's really great. Like, like, expected to not be like it has some good actions. But it's not action movie. It's a good movie, you know what I mean? It's a good story building movie with good characters. There's also some cool elements to it that I didn't know, like, the voice and stuff. I mean, if your doom fan, you know what that is, I didn't even know something like that existed in this. So that that was like this whole, like, alright, it's like kind of Star Wars II to like. And I also see, someone posted an article that I thought was interesting that they were saying that like, I guess compared to the original films, or whatever they felt like this movies stripped a lot of I think she said something about, like, someone wrote an article, but they felt like this film stripped a lot of some of the Islamic influences from the original. And I thought that was interesting, because like, I don't know anything about them. But I thought I saw a huge Islamic influence on that leverage some of the ways some of like, the way the certain groups of people are portrayed and their belief system and how, you know, like, how widespread it is around that. Like, like, I I personally saw that without even knowing that was even a thing. Why, like, I was like, Oh, I feel like Islam was a huge inspiration for certain sets, you know, like, because, because when you're inventing a group of people, you take stuff from all over the place that you know, but I definitely see a huge influence there. So, yeah, that was interesting. Like, now I'm interested because I almost want to like see the originals to see like, what, what what made, like, whoever wrote that article feel that way. Cuz I'm like, maybe there was even more like, I don't know. But yeah, yeah, it was really interesting. We were

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