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October 11, 2021 Dillon & Fortune Season 1 Episode 9
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Cinescussion - Episode 9 - 007: No Time To Die / A Game of 20 Questions...Sort of
Oct 11, 2021 Season 1 Episode 9
Dillon & Fortune

Have you ever played 20 questions? Yea, neither had we, until now...well sort of. You'll have to join us here on Episode 9 as we discuss Daniel Craig's final venture as the legendary 007 in No Time To Die, directed by Cary Fukunaga (True Detective, Sin Nombre, Beasts of No nation). We also saw the Venom sequel "Let There Be Carnage" because...well Fortune loves carnage so he drug Dillon along. We didn't expect to love it after experiencing the first one but, well we'll get into it in the episode.

Film Discussed:
James Bond 007 No Time To Die | Venom Let There Be Carnage

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Have you ever played 20 questions? Yea, neither had we, until now...well sort of. You'll have to join us here on Episode 9 as we discuss Daniel Craig's final venture as the legendary 007 in No Time To Die, directed by Cary Fukunaga (True Detective, Sin Nombre, Beasts of No nation). We also saw the Venom sequel "Let There Be Carnage" because...well Fortune loves carnage so he drug Dillon along. We didn't expect to love it after experiencing the first one but, well we'll get into it in the episode.

Film Discussed:
James Bond 007 No Time To Die | Venom Let There Be Carnage

As always, thanks for joining us movie, video game, and television lovers and we hope you enjoy the episode.

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Hello everybody this is Dylan

and this is fortune also known as a restless mind on YouTube

and welcome to episode nine of discussion we have a couple of busy bees this last few weeks and yeah that's in the theater a couple times

a little too busy. I'm kind of addicted to new world it's my first MMO and I am I had I told myself that I was going to take a week off of my YouTube channel to play new worlds because I knew I needed to get into at the beginning and this week I'm getting started back on my YouTube videos where I left off and I'm constantly like tempted to go play that game so I have to control myself

five minutes start working on the video for like five minutes and that should get you through like a session you'll you'll keep doing it.

Well I am working I'm working on my Midnight Mass deep dive slash video essay. So it's going well I have the script started I'm a few paragraphs in so it's going well,

it would be so easy to dedicate a whole episode of that show. In fact, it'd be so easy I'm trying not to go on a tangent right now because we have lots of talk Yeah,

that'll be our next episode because by then I'll have my the YouTube video about out and maybe we could talk about it too because I know we only have so much time so just you guys know today because we stopped both films Today's theme is we're actually going to play 20 questions, we have 20 questions that we've written out for each person. Everything appropriate. But just we thought it would be fun for you guys because you guys will probably get to know each of us a little bit better through our answers to these questions. And we might even get to know each other a little bit better maybe stuff we didn't know. But before that we are going to discuss Daniel Craig's sendoff and double o sevens at no time to die as well as Let there be Carnage so

yeah let's start with no time today and it's actually called venom Let there be Carnage I don't want to die renders of the title that is to be just treated as

something I call it now I'm just gonna call it Let there be Carnage the only the only reason I saw the carnage just finally in a movie so that's what I'll cause Matter of fact Fine. I'll just call it carnage.

Let's start with the one I think we like to know more. So we saw double the seven times that finally after Yes. almost two years of delays, which is yes. pretty wild ride if you were excited, anticipating

we were both super bummed like two years ago when I got pushed back and then it just kept getting pushed back. So

yeah, and yeah, and as the pandemic kept going like right, we're coming to the end of it. We're like yes, we're wrapping this up. Vaccines are out we're about to open up again. Bam, delta very

fine. We're just gonna die and go see the movie.

Yeah, exactly. Um, but yeah, man, I I there was, I really liked this movie. It was a little bit of a mixed bag. For me, I do have kind of a few things that I didn't love but as a as a final kind of farewell to the Daniel Craig era, I think it was had a really great feeling of nostalgia not only for Daniel Craig's era of James Bond movies, but a lot of respect and kind of reverence for what came before it to which was really fun and cheerful. And I think my favorite part about this movie was twofold. One Daniel Craig's performance we were texting the other day and I was like, this is the best thing I've ever been is the character they gave him a lot of really great emotional stuff to work with in this movie, and if he's been tired of playing this character, like we've heard, I couldn't tell it seems like he really was putting his all into it. And the other thing I've seen a lot of movies over the past I think it's probably been like six months maybe a little less maybe a little more since I've started going back to the theaters whenever I got vaccinated. But this was the first movie where it felt like I was really back in the theaters watching a blockbuster experience to see in theaters like this was the big yeah for me you know I mean,

I think it's because it's the one that you were waiting for most throughout quarantine that got pushed back like a lot of the other ones we've seen our films that you know we were looking forward to seeing but I think this is one of the the first film that's been released that we were both like been waiting since for two years literally for this movie like for me the other one now is the matrix resurrections and and also scream just because on the screen so which they are releasing the trailer tomorrow apparently so I'm super glad

I meant the other day I saw the poster for the film Yeah, you may have looked

it looks great. Of course I'm a screen fanatic. Even the ones that aren't as good like I just and this is the first one that you know rip what's Cravens the first one not directed by him it's directed by the two guys that did read you're not which I thought was a fun movie. So like we'll see how this goes.

So I like read your novel actually didn't know that and that gives me even more excitement because then I think they wrote it fun tone as well. Yeah, I

think they were some of the writers too on it. So like so it should be fun. It should be Interesting to see what they do with it. And a lot of the actors have said in Twitter, like interviews and things like that, that he really worked hard to, like respect West Craven throughout the film, so yeah, I can't wait.

Yeah, I can't wait either. As for no time to die, I kind of went over the things I love the couple things that didn't work for me as I think they got an amazing actor with Remy Malick to play the final villain. And he very much felt just kind of like a Bond villain. And what I mean by that is if you've seen the series, you know, it's very often that villains pop up, they get way too little to do they have a big giant world ending. Yeah, you know, I plan to go on and they're not always the most memorable. And this was one of the villains for me, which was frustrating because he actually had one of my favorite intros to a Bond villain and almost Yeah, like I was watching like the strangers or something like yeah, invasion movie. I was like, Oh, shit, I agree. Three legit.

Yeah, like, like the opening. I liked that whole thing. And I liked and I remember I was actually just the scene with the ice. I was literally just waiting to see what he did. Yeah. And the way it goes, at first I thought, Oh, wow. And then you realize, Oh, that's not what's happening. Like, okay, but like, honestly, you know, to remind you of it, it almost reminded me of like, the sequence in like a longer version of the sequence from the kinsmen where they're like in the cabin, and then like, someone just shows up. It's kinda like that, like, just a little bit, but but less humorous and fun, more actual kind of, you know, dread, like, what's going on? I also liked the Okay, so just so you guys know, so no time to die? No to suppose I'll just say I like the scene that involved. I was surprised by the gun play. I'll just say somebody did something. And I was very shocked. I was like, good for you. And I think you know what I mean? Like, I did not expect that. And I was like, Yes, I'm sure my friends down in Texas would be like saying,

but yeah, like, I really liked it, too. I'm with you. I feel like the villain was, for me extremely weak. And unfortunately, I think Rami Malik Malik is great. And the villain was the best Bond films tend to have good villains slightly like they tend to be memorable because the villain is a huge part of the show. They interweave themselves into the story to the point where it actually elevates the mystery. And it elevates, I guess the uneasiness about how it's going to end based on what the villains motivations are and how it's affecting either bond or someone around bond directly, like in the sense of Skyfall. It affects bond indirectly because well, it's directly for him, but like, it's about em, essentially. But that affects the bond directly, because whether he likes to see it or not, and wasn't just a boss, she was kind of like a mother figure for him in a way too, because he doesn't really seem to have any family members like he he cared about him. And then in the sheep, sheep is just he just in Mads Mikkelsen just eats up the screen when he's on the screen. So he's just, you know, I mean, like, I feel like both Quantum of Solace and Spectre, which are two films that I thought were far less good, I didn't think they were great films. I do love I do love that Spectre had some very good actors to play the villains, but it's another situation where I feel like they're kind of underused underexposed, and they're not as connected the story like it almost seemed like they tried to make Spector seem like the villains connect to the server connect to the story by just basically having him say that all these things were me and they've led up to here but that doesn't mean anything. That's just cheating. You're just saying it you're not showing it and making us feel like if that was the case, there should have been a vein of this underlying thing through all the films if that's true, like almost like what they did with the Sherlock series with Moriarty where he's kind of it's been building up to this meeting, you know, it's never like that, so it's kind of a cheat that's why I thought Spectre was a bit disappointing but for this one, even though I didn't care for the villain, there was enough with bond with his relationship with certain characters a few reveals also I like the way they handled the new actress who comes in I think her name is leshawna Lynch she was she was also in Captain Marvel. But I believe but I like she comes in as no me no me and I think she's great and I like the because a lot of people like freaked out online about Oh, she's she's not supposed to double seven doubles. there's typically a guy and I also understand that argument not in terms of sexism or anything but like, but like, I like the constant joke that like it's just a number who cares, you know? And then at the end, I think those fans would have to shut their mouths because like, you know, the fact that she actually gives the number back out of respect like, like so it shows all the while they are respecting that character of bond and like people just need to wait until they see movies before they freak out. You know what I mean? But

yeah, yeah, I remember it's actually I think I am a little grateful that this movie had some time before I came out because I remember a lot of headlines where it was, you know that double oh seven conversation of who should be double of seven and I think Yeah, people were upset that Phoebe Waller bridge's was going to be a writer on the project and I was like, these people really Never seen fleabag

I was like, so you people are idiots you just saw a woman and got mad like I don't, I don't know what else to say like fleabag is not. There's nothing about that that makes it too feminine or too masculine. It is hilarious. It is brilliant. It is rated R as hell. And it's it's honestly just absolutely brilliant. anything she wants to be involved with, I'm happy to see, like literally

crazy, meaningful, fantastic conversation around what inclusion and diversity means and film, and maybe we'll even get into one day but before the art is released, and people have a chance to really take it in. It's all hypothetical and exile hypothetical conversations lead to misplaced and hypothetical anger. And people have valid reasons for that, too. But when it comes to art, experience it and then discuss it.

Exactly. It's like until you've seen it. Your opinion is completely just speculation. And at this point, getting so upset and being rude to other people and stuff when you don't when you haven't even seen the dam project is actually pointless. And it's really mature, frankly, like it just is like I can understand seeing a trailer and being like, I have no interest seeing that movie. Fine. But at that point, you still it's hard for you to judge it when you haven't seen it though. Like there are films I haven't seen because I don't have any interest but I don't have much to say about them because I didn't see to confirm my opinions. You know, like so. When you asked me I didn't see it. I didn't really want to see it. It's kind of that simple. Like Yeah.

But I do think a fair critique of the writing was this movie kind of juggled a lot of tones and juggle that kind of Casino Royale tone of really gritty, gritty, serious moments, especially within the action. There were, I think three or four really phenomenal, violent, exciting set pieces in this movie. There was the the car chase, I think was in Rome in the beginning that was seeing I think

it was Italy, Italy. I think it was somewhere in Italy. I just don't I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure what city it was in though. Like that's right. It's sad. It sounded like it sounded like they were speaking Italian but I could be wrong. Yeah, yeah,

that scene lived up to the hype. We saw most of it in the trailers, unfortunately. But there's still some excitement there. Oh, yeah.

It's cut beautifully. And honestly, Cary Fukunaga is a great director. So like, the shot list is beautiful. I mean, I remember throughout that whole sequence, even when he comes to visit a grave and stuff like that. It's just beautiful. Like it's Yeah, it's a very good director. And he knows what he wants, you know, yep,

there was a another one of my favorite kind of set pieces was there's a scene where bond goes to a club, and he's infiltrating kind of a society with another character that leads to a really exciting action scene where, yeah, on the day, our mouse really gets to show off how badass she is in the movie. Yeah. absolutely loved is especially when the bond theme kicks in, and everything's violent. He's always walking out in a structured tuxedo like Michael Yeah, it's just completely stiff and just blown. Yeah, well, I was like, This movie is so fucking cool. Yeah.

And I think that was one of the few campy moments that I liked the scene where after all of that, he still pours them a drink. It just feels very fun. I think that was like the that was like the one campy joke that landed really well for me. I was like, Okay, yeah, like, I feel like there are definitely some since he's saying goodbye. It seemed like it was deliberate. There was a little more campiness to kind of you know say to kind of hit on some of those notes that some of the older fans liked as well like you know, yeah, as he has been the more serious bond so I think they just wanted to give them a little bit of that old you know, wink wink and out of the camera kind of thing you know, yeah,

there was the all too brief but amazing shootout within the foggy woods.

That was one of my favorite sequences I loved it so yeah,

I got home for longer and they left me wanting more

and one of the shots is actually shown in the trailer and I still loved seeing it again it's the scene with the tripwire in the van and yeah he's he still gets the few shots off and what that what how that ends with a specific person that irritated the hell out of me included especially one of my favorite lines. He smiles too much I was like yeah, no irritating. irritating. Yeah, it sounds like an archer character that you're just wanting to die

It really was if that's exactly what I was looking at

Barry's brother

Yeah, the final set piece on the Big Island there's a really great wonder of day Oh yeah, fighting up a flight of stairs you just see Yeah, how incredibly physically isn't this rolling I know he's talking about how many injuries is to sustain working on these films so he definitely kind of takes it easier than he has in the past on like casino but that same really showed him putting for sure Cali physicality to the test.

And I'm pretty sure I know exactly where the cut is for the stunt double By the way, like Yeah, yeah, like it's like it was right there, but it's seamless. It's perfect. Like it works just like Birdman. You're sure that's where it was, but you wouldn't really be able to know like, you know, but right it was great. They did a very good job with it. Yeah.

But then you know where I think I was listening to Cary Fukunaga talking about this film and he was explaining the Bond films are rarely ever going to come out in time especially in this area era because for the most part they're their rights continuing to write it even as they've begun editing. And yeah, that's been consistent on almost all the films then you can actually feel that in this movie you can feel can where one writer leaves another comes in the tone just kind of gets lost every once in a while and it didn't like kill the movie for me, but it definitely kind of docked it a little bit. Yeah, but I mean, that's okay. It was still a blast.

Yeah, I think that's what I had said to you. I thought it was a good movie. Not a great movie, but it's a good movie, and I still enjoyed it. I thought it was super well directed. I thought some of the action scenes were great. I love seeing Daniel Craig in the role, like you said, I agree His performance was fantastic. Fantastic. I always just, I'll just say no spoilers. I always wish something more happened with Moneypenny. To some extent. I can't I can't help it. Especially after Skyfall like I just couldn't help it. But um, I think that Leah is it sudo or sudo sudo. She's fantastic. She actually in our last episode, we talked about lose the Warmest Color. That was I think the first time I'd ever seen her. And she blew me away then. And she's always great. Like, I feel like she's one of those characters. She's one of those actresses that whatever the role is, she's just very believable in it, which which is great. Like, like, I feel like she's not she's not overly showy. She doesn't really steal the screen, but her character is not supposed to. But yeah, completely genuine and everything that she does, and I believe her like I really liked the scene with the daughter when she's being pulled away from her daughter. Like I like that scene quite a bit. And I like that and I like that. It seems like the writers directors were very specific to not make her a victim she's never a victim even with what's happening she surprises you over and over again. And I like that I like that. I like that I like that she's like a strong woman and even though she's not played as like the agent, she's like, you don't have to be an agent and just to just be brave and just not be stupid. You know what I mean? And I like that I like that she's given that credit throughout the film, you know what I mean? So totally,

totally. But yeah, I think if you've been waiting for a particular movie to get out and have that theatrical experience with and you're feeling safe and responsible I think this is a this is a great pick to do that in fact I agree as a quick ranking of kind of where I would put this one the Daniel Craig era mind you know, casino and Skyfall are interchangeable my opinion changes on what's one and two all the time so for now, today I'm gonna say Skyfall and casino but tomorrow and I reversed that then no time to die is three and those are the three I'll rewatch again and again basically are as Spectre in quantum I saw him once didn't care much for him those

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for me it's pretty much the exact same if I ordered it specifically well not actually know as much as I love Skyfall I casino rails my number one and then Skyfall and then no time to die and then I would say Spectre and then Quantum of Solace but spectrum quantum solace I saw each one I never need to watch them again I didn't think they're very good So yeah, time to die I think is solid I didn't love it but I didn't hate it. I think it's solid I could definitely watch it again and I probably will. Sweet and it's definitely a fun send off and I think they did a lot of things justice while honoring a lot of things about the character that people love while still trying to bring in some new ideas some extent, which I think is nice. So

I agree. Shout out to James Bond there. Whoever comes next is gonna have some very large shoes to fill.

Yep, Daniel Craig is still my favorite bond. Like I think there's just a realism that he brings to the role that he's like a bond that it's not as showy and corny. Like I believe him like I you know, yeah, I appreciate that. So, yeah,

I agree. What did you think of the sequel to venom? venom Let there be Carnage

human carnage. Carnage starring woody Heller. So, Dylan, I vote didn't really think the first one was very good. I basically didn't expect this to be very good, but I wanted to see it just because Carnage is one of my favorite villains. I think he's really cool looking. I think that you know, he's always a side villain, but I just always wanted to see him in the movie, so it could be good or bad. I'm going to go see the movie. I think some of the carnage scenes were kind of cool. The only issue is just like the first one it's like really overly CG looking like I know you would have to make him CG for the most part, but I feel like the style in which the CG was used is very much like the first one in the sense that and a lot of lighting it feels very cartoony, which I don't care for because I feel like I know you can go with more of a photorealistic look. But overall, I mean, if you're feeling this way, I think if you really liked the first one I'm like almost 100% certain you will really like this one like it because it has almost the exact same tone. You know, it follows up on the last movie almost exactly in the same way. similar kinds of humor, if you can call it that. Like that. There are moments where I did laugh, but like most of the laughter like some of it was funny, but some of those I was just laughing because that was supposed to be a joke if that makes sense. There's also honestly but here's the thing for me. Ironically, it is one of my favorite movies that I've seen all year because of one line, there's a line in this film that is so bad, where you cannot believe that someone wrote it professionally and that it ended up in a movie and I loved it I actually hurled over in my seat I was laughing and I actually had to try to contain myself so I was did that line alone it and I am grateful first thing is don't I won't say what it is because I want you guys I want to see if you guys have the same feeling I had. Yeah, I was like, at first I was like I was like expecting someone to say it and then I thought it was gonna get quiet and then everyone was gonna start laughing and like say what was that or something? But it was serious. It was like, I was like, I think I've bumped you didn't I like I was just thinking this is amazing. Amazing. Like, this is the best thing ever. So I enjoyed my experience, but not for the reasons the writers and directors expected. That's what I'd say. Like it's it's it's it's not the worst thing I've ever seen, but it's definitely an Oh boy. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm where I'm at. I don't like this series. I'll tell you I was talking to my fiance on the run home and I was like, I imagine that like, if I had kids and they were like 10 to 12 like I'm a huge fan of the character venom and I feel like this would be like a fun thing to share in that regard. But also as a fan of the character. This isn't what I want to see you know, the jokes don't land for me the what made me laugh at the end of the first fandom was seeing Woody Harrelson in like a Ronald McDonald wig saying yeah Carnage I mean great actor they made him get a haircut you see him in this movie and they're doing their best but the entire time it's I don't get I mean I do get the tone it's just as I'm watching it I'm like man these are not for me like these are just for somebody else. I will say I do have one positive for a PG 13 version of target. I thought there was going to be a significant Li less amount of onscreen Carnage like you really do get some cool stuff going on with like spreading the symbiote throughout like entire buildings and just

I thought the process may

yeah for sure sequence

I think the present sequence was probably the best thing in the movie it was I didn't think it was amazing but it was solid like it had some cool stuff to it and if you're a fan and if you're a Carnage fan there's some ridiculous stuff that you know if you have read some of the comments it's ridiculous but you get it like you know like it's like All right, cool. Yeah.

That it has it has kind of an exciting post mid credit sequence that we're not going to spoil but there's

another one that's like what I found out what that is by the way, and it's hilarious really. Yeah, but I don't want to tell you here because it's more liberal anybody wants to tell you later my friend who knows my friend who was with me knows comics we went in research he was like what is that then he was like oh god it's and then he told me and I couldn't stop laughing

well we'll see where the series goes forward after this but it may go on some really cool directions or maybe not

Yeah, well based on one sequence it looks like it has the potential to be cool if we don't want to spoil it so I'll just say it has the potential to be cool in the right hands I'll just say that

Yeah, yeah, we will see that's really all I got for Carnage I recommend it now you know some there are some people may enjoy it, but that you know, I just want to kind of transition into my first question of 20 questions and I took a lot of care writing this one and I mean it very seriously I'm not

okay okay, so question one guys. We are getting into 20 questions now.

What is your kids want and why are they so hard to keep?

secrets don't want anything so they should be easy to keep.

Movie might disagree, but

I'm not gonna explain this further guys. Is it something that I'm

correct answer for?

Okay. The correct answer is this is the worst fucking line. And I love it. I'm so happy and it's in the right movie. Like it is in the right you actually made that a question I love. Oh, man, that is so good. Oh, ah, sorry. In retrospect spoilers.

Yes. The answer audience is secrets are hard to keep. Because they want out.

Okay, okay. I'm so sorry guys. Here. Okay, my first question is more of an actual one.

I can't believe you did that. But I love you, brother. I appreciate you, man. question, what is the origin of your passion for film?

Oh, good question. Um, the origin for my passionate films would be, I don't know how unique This is. But I share a lot of experiences with what I imagine many kids growing up with a single parent was like, and that, you know, life growing up, we don't recognize how difficult it is until we get older and kind of reflect on what that experience was like, with more context into the world. And what I didn't know at the time was I really loved escapism, and it's carried in kids carried into my adulthood, you know, I grew up. I grew up on movies, and I was raised in front of the television, like a lot of people in my generation, you know, yeah. So I, I naturally learned what good and evil and positivity and morals kind of felt like a lot through the television. And that, that led to my love of reading and eventually my love of video games of just being able to understand other people's experiences through fictional characters, you know what I mean? I think that it's made me a more caring person, far more empathetic, far more understanding, and in a lot of ways, far more patient. Outside of that escapism as well, because I think it led to my fascination with other people's experiences. And you know, I reflected on that more and more that's made me love film even more. And it's made me love film in different ways. Also, I'm a pretty, my, my tone, the way I speak, and a lot of the time, my kind of emotions, they're pretty even keeled and low, but I feel I've had outside of certain, like, major life events, when it comes to feeling art. I've always felt it the most. And film, The combination of visuals, and performances, and Music has always kind of pulled that out of me, more so than anything individually. And that's and it just led to years and years of love for this art.

I can relate to that. Very, very nice answer. Thank you. Yeah.

Awesome. Thank you. That was great question.

Thank you. Maya,

my first one for you would be a if you can take one movie to see again, as if it's your experience for the first time watching it. What would you choose? And why?

Oh, that's a good one. If it was for the first time,

yes, one thing that you could experience for the first time again, kind of tell me a little bit about the first time you experienced that?

Why? Okay, so it would it would be there's a few films on my list, I'm sure you know, I pick for me, it would be the first screen film. I love that film. And the reason I would love to experience it again, for the first time was because when I saw that, I believe I was 14. And my mom was still heavily into the church. So she really didn't want me watching that kind of violent stuff, you know, so a lot of the radar stuff I had to kind of sneak on my own or with friends at their house or whatever. And I remember my mom's friend came over and her daughter, they had just rented some movies from blockbuster Hollywood video, one of those that so people know about. And scream was one of them. And the parent, my pet, my mother was preoccupied with her friends. So essentially, I was just like, Hey, Mom, can I watch this movie? And I just kind of made sure not to explain it too much, you know? And she was like, yeah, sure you guys have fun. And I was like, well, I got permission. So I proceeded to watch this film that till this day, it's one of my favorite opening sequences in any film. I think it was so well directed. So well performed. I thought the score was beautiful. Also most slashers I had still seen a lot of them at that point secretly, but they usually involve really stupid characters and really stupid people. And it's basically just there to see them die. And there's nothing else interesting about the script. So the idea that it was essentially this murder mystery thing and you're trying to figure out who the killer is. And the fact that the opening scene has this kind of really poetic darkness to it which I had never experienced emotion. Lily you know the idea that she's choked and then she gets away and her parents are right in front of her and she can't call for help because she's her throat doesn't work and then she's literally dying right on the other side of the wall holding the phone You know, there's just so many elements of that that I didn't know you could write a sequence like that and still have something awful be beautiful like in a film storytelling way so I would love to have been able to have seen that at that time like in a theater with friends with like the surround sound and really experienced that fear for the first time you know what I mean? The score is so great with a blaring and you know, like just to have been allowed to see that in the theater I think I would have loved that opening sequence even more because till this day it's in my mind all the time. And it's Kevin Williamson as a writer his style has influenced me he's probably one of my top three to five like writer you know, influencers So yeah, I would pick that one just because of how much it still influences me to this day. So that only would have probably made the experience better.

Yeah, I love Wes Craven. I think he has still done my favorite work and kind of that non comedy meta horror genre with him and like new nightmare where it's very self aware, but there's scary and there's the like, Yeah, for

sure. Your nightmares great. Like honestly, I think Nightmare on Elm Street and name are the best ones. Like those were hands down the best ones. So

for sure, yeah, yeah. Yeah,

thanks. That's a good one. That's fun.

had to think about it.

I was like, I was like, part of me wants to say one of these Oscar winning films, because it sounds smart. But I'm like, I'm being honest. Yeah, we're a big artist. So all right, let's see here. If there is one movie that you could see remade, well, what would it be? Oh, and I mean that by like, something that you would love that you'd love to see a remake of, or something that was bad that you thought was a great idea. That could have been great. You know,

you asked the anti remake person this, did you?

Yes, I did. And I did that deliberately.

Let me ponder this one for a second. Sure. If I had to remake a movie and see it, from today's viewpoint, I think I would, but a good director would have to do it. My curiosity would skyrocket to see today's version of A Clockwork Orange. Oh, what a good one. Yes,

I think we would do you know, I think would have to do it. Just my opinion. David Fincher.

David Fincher would be excellent. I think the Navy and it would be really good too.

Yeah, I could see that too.

I can Yeah, too. But I think the conversation, that movie around kind of acceptance of violence and the way that it affects us, and can it be? Can it be fixed through? You know, what's the word I'm looking for? Can it be fixed through? words not to people? Yeah. conditioning? I'm gonna pause. Let me get the dogs out here. One second.

Yeah. Yeah, no problem.

Yes. Go there. for later. Go. Go they don't know. Hello? Yeah. Not only through conditioning, but through. I'm looking for the word. Unfortunately, I can't find it. But let me just restart. Because I'd be able to find it. But I got your real distracted problem. Yeah, it'd be A Clockwork Orange, because I'd want to know, yeah, totally. I want to be able to see kind of that conversation of how violence portrayed in the media as well as other topics affecting young people through today's point of view. Through Yeah, I guess the word would be conditioning. And I think that our culture has evolved in so many ways, since that movie is made and taken such leaps and bounds from where we were. But we know from the topic those conversations are very much still alive and well. And I'd be curious to see today's point of view from an artist compared to Stanley Kubrick's point of view. I think would be rather than take a stance in that movie, I think it didn't feel like he took a stance But no,

I think he was very good to just make the film as honest and kind of off and on visceral as possible. I like like, like, it's like visceral while still being operatic. It's really interesting.

I'd love it like focus. Yeah, I agree. My next question for you would be Which, quote, bad director at least poorly reviewed director has a body of work that you just really enjoy.

Oh man, that's a tough one. Um,

I'm gonna give you my answer because this was one of those questions I already know.

I already know.

I like Rob Zombie movies.

It was gonna be better. It was gonna be Zack Snyder cuz some people don't like. Yeah, I was wondering. I was wondering what? People liked him that that's fine.

I think he has a very clear creative direction and a unique cinematic voice.

Ah, give me a second here. Yep. I have one jumps to mind because I like a few of his movies.

Okay, um, not so much lately. But in the past, I mean, trying to be honest here. Not so much late Well, I guess technically, there's kind of two but it's kind of like I like some of their films. I would say m Night Shyamalan just because he gets a lot of crap. But there are some movies he's done in the past that I thought were fantastic. And some terrible, terrible. Another person that I don't know if I'd say they're fantastic, but I liked them quite a bit as Paul Ws Anderson his early work I love I liked the first Mortal Kombat a lot. I thought Event Horizon was decent. I thought the first resume was good. I thought the first Resident Evil was actually pretty good. Didn't like Alien vs. Predator. I didn't like any of the other rescue movies. I didn't see the last one. But there was one right in the middle called retribution, randomly enjoyed that one. And I also didn't hate Death Race. I thought that was all right. So yeah, yeah, like it had some, like it was kind of stupid, but it also had some cool stuff to it. And he has this kind of clean look that he goes for that. You know, as a director, you got to give him credit. He's mastered it. He has a very clean sterile look that that it's very pretty. He just doesn't always make my favorite movies. But I'd say both of those films have done some things that I like, so I'll I'll put them in there. I don't. I wouldn't say I love either of them because of some of the really bad ones. But they've done some that I like so.

Yeah, I will say as good as the first Mortal Kombat movie is there was no reason that this year's version shouldn't have been better than

No, none whatsoever. And the worst part is that first 10 minutes is actually fantastic. So it's like you showed me You could do it. And then you just were like,

walking around looking like somebody zante dude.

Oh my god, and then every time you cut to Outworld It feels like it's an SNL skit of mortal it's so bad. I was like, What? Why is Outworld so terrible? Like, I mean that I thought the first like half hour was pretty good like subzero chasing around people like a serial killer. You know, raising ice and chase you know, like I thought that was a cool concept. But about the half hour to 40 minute mark. Basically once they got to ravens temple, it just went downhill dramatically and it never recovered. And all the fight sequences were just pretty crappy after that, too. Like all of them were really, really bad. So yeah, but like score Scorpion sub zero was okay, but it was still not amazing. Sorry, apparently it was highly successful. So we'll probably catch that it was I'm also a little bitter because Johnny Scorpion and now my God, I have loved quite a few characters with Johnny and Scorpion are two of my favorites. And Johnny was not in this movie. So I was really sad. But it sounds like that sounds sounds like he's gonna be in a second one. So. Very Okay. What subjects are you most drawn to in storytelling?

I am a huge fan, did you say genre and storytelling,

but what subjects subject drawn to most?

Yeah, got it. Um, I like films, whether it be like in a small character story, or like a large intergalactic story. I like really big themes. I like movies that deal with life and death, love and hatred, faith and non faith. I like movies that tackle these really kind of difficult, big conversations knew regardless of how they do it, even if it's something like it immediately goes to books. One of my favorite authors is Cormac McCarthy and he has really, really heavy books, one of which is blood Meridian, which is a incredibly violent book. I don't recommend to everybody but if you have a if you have a tough stomach, then high recommendation, but it's the I've never seen war and violence explored in a way where it's felt so vicious. Roll but so philosophical at the same time, and if the story can make me feel that way about something big, then I tend to really gravitate towards it. I also have a particular love for movies that take place in the American West a lot of times regardless of time, I think there is a, like a feeling of like, legend myth, those in like, westerns, and especially Gothic westerns are really drawn to so I love horror and kind of darkness in that. But I think when a movie can or a movie or show a story can deal with a big theme, then I tend to very quickly fall in love with it the most recent which was dealing with faith and midnight mass and the way that it can affect a small community. Yeah, I immediately fell in love. It's

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