Cinescussion - Episode 20 - New Classics

What are some of your favorite "classics?" Well, we wanted to talk about some films that we have loved over the past fifteen years or so and discuss what makes films become classics, and which films we think will be considered classics twenty years from now. Grab your coffee and join us as we break down some films we love and have a great time discussing why we think they will be new classics that people come back to watch for years to come.

Films Discussed: Her, Get Out, Hereditary, Midsommar, V For Vendetta, Arrival, The Social Network, Silence, Once Upon a Time in America, Moonlight, Mad Max: Fury Road, The Wolf of Wall Street

Season 2: Episode 7
2022

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Transcript

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Hey everyone, this is Dylan.

0:17  
And this is fortune, also known as a restless mind on YouTube. And welcome

0:21  
to episode 20 of sin discussion where we are going to be discussing classic movies that may not be considered classics yet, but we have a pretty good idea that going to be in a few years time. Yes,

0:31  
this was actually a great prompt from you. And when you set it, I was like, that's something I never would have thought of. And that actually does seem kind of fun and had to suddenly go through all of these films over the last like, decade or so. 1015 years, and I'm like, God, what would be a classic? So?

0:46  
Yeah, yeah. I know, you. We were just talking before the podcast, and you had a really great description for what would make a classic movie when you set it. I was looking at all of my list. And I was like, I think these all fall in that but yeah, description again.

0:57  
Yeah, cuz I was like, I even Googled, like, what makes the film a classic. And there were multiple descriptions that I found. But one, I think that that kind of seems to fit almost every film. That's a classic that I know of. So I would go with that one. It's basically films that kind of withstand the test of time, not only because they're very well made movies, and they were well liked by the public, but they're things they're films that typically have subject matter that is universally interesting and worth coming back to even years later, it's still very relevant, or it still was very relevant for its time. So it's a good time capsule, or it's still relevant today. You know, it has subject matter and that that kind of what stands the test of time,

1:35  
you know? Yep, yep, for sure. No, I totally agree with that. And I'm happy that you use that description. Because like I said, I was going over my list and I was like, yeah, these all but yeah,

1:45  
I read all these descriptions. There were some that were okay. But I felt like that description when I thought of like, every famous homeless considered a classic now that literally fit every single one of them pretty much and I was like, yeah, that seems like the most accurate description.

1:57  
Yeah, yeah. I you know, I don't have any order to my list. But I feel like when I go down mind, I'm going to probably try to make it from like, most obvious to least obvious is how I run mine.

2:08  
That's kind of what I'm gonna do as well. Mine are kind of in that order. Already. There might be one that's out. But I yeah, like the last three, I guess, are interchangeable. But I feel like the first four. Yeah. Or and I say first four minutes, technically first five, but I'm going to talk about two together. So

2:24  
yeah, okay, cool. Well, let's kick this thing off. Man. Do you want to do you want to have the honors? Number one? Sure.

2:30  
Okay, so the first one is I found that I have to admit, I only saw once I saw it once in theater, it was a masterpiece. And so I really need to watch it again. But I never stopped thinking about it. And that was her. I love that dude, her not only is it brilliantly directed, like I mean gorgeously directed, the cinematography, the color palettes, Joaquin Phoenix's performance, even Scarlett Johansens vocal performance, everything was so well crafted for that film. So on that level, it's just a 10 out of 10. But I feel like the subject matter is what I wrote here is that it's a masterpiece with a hardcore focus on the human condition, loneliness, artificial intelligence, and the reality of love and connection across various supposed boundaries. And I kind of feel like, it's a film that it does focus on loneliness. But it also when I mentioned the human condition, I just feel like that's really relevant because it even gives that to the AI to the point where the air has her own personality and her own needs and wants as well. And you're watching these, these, these two beings fall in love with each other. And it's very genuine. And I actually felt like the ending wasn't actually what I thought it was going to be, I was very surprised. But even the AI like a person grows and needs other things just like people do. And I just feel like we're moving closer and closer to a world where this doesn't even seem far fetched. Like there are a lot of people, or a lot of people that are lonely. Some people find connection some people don't. And I also feel like this idea that loneliness can be filled with another form of life to like, it's just a really interesting concept. And I also felt like, it kind of really delves into humanity even more so from the AI's perspective, which is really interesting, like this analysis of human beings and like what they crave and need. And I just felt like it mixed so many things in the same world and talks about so many things both both vividly m sub textually, that I feel like it's a film you can come back to 2030 years from now, not only would it be just as beautifully made and moving, but the subject matter would still be relevant, and it probably be even more relevant than to be honest. I feel like it's gonna be one of those films. They're gonna go oh my god, this movie was so ahead of its time. Like, you know what I mean? I really do think so.

4:45  
Like, yeah, and you know, Joaquin Phoenix has been my favorite actor since probably the master while living. Yeah, I should say. And what I really loved about her was not only you get a really sweet kind of realistic performance from him. But yeah, what made her stand out so much to me was often his characters in his movies kind of are the really loud, exuberant, not so loud, but definitely they stand out from the world in a way to where he's the thing that's usually portrayed as abnormal or wild or crazy. But in that movie, his actual situation is the abnormal thing. And he's just playing this everyday guy, he does it so well, and you just kind of buy into him so quickly, and you want to be happy at the end of the movie, you really do something unusual? And I think it was, it's been a long time since we've been able to see something grounded like that from him. And it's if it's been a little bit since well, there's a movie that came out last year. It was Oscar nominated that I wanted to see black and white film about him taking care of young child. I know, it seemed like another one of those performances. And I really wanted to see it because of that. But her was the first time I saw that. I was like, God, this guy is awesome. He could do it all.

5:57  
Yeah, he really can't. I don't think I've ever seen him give a bad performance. In fact, I've seen him in films that I thought were okay. But he was magnificent. Yeah, yeah, like Burrell, he always is great. Like, any of his character also had a very unique look and stuff in that film, too. Yeah, the stash. Like everything, that his demeanor, he was such a person that always made himself smaller and every way, and it's kind of sad, because he's a person that really deserves love. And he's kind of a wonderful person. But he makes them smile self smaller in every situation, and you almost feel like, what will, you know, you almost like understand, it's like, like, you're probably not going to be the one that find someone, when you make yourself smaller in every situation, you out of your own anxiety, you do everything to not be seen yet. But all you want us to be seen to be loved. And I think a lot of people can kind of relate to that, too. So yeah, yeah, I just feel like it's something that's not going to not the subject matter is not going to go away, it's going to be relevant. And I think we're going to have a lot of things to figure out as if we survive everything. And if we move forward with tech and everything, you know, barring Russia, stop doing what you're doing. But like, hope we're still here. Yeah, but yeah, like, it's, I think it's something that we're constantly going to be having to adapt to the world and figure out as technology advances, as we do, as living situations advance, like there's gonna be a lot of new hurdles just moving forward. And I think this movie tackles the future, that seems like a great future, but it can still show certain human situations that still remain and haven't changed. And I think that is going to be something that's very common, a lot of people can relate to for probably hundreds of years to come like so.

7:36  
Yeah, I totally agree. Um, well, my first movie also has to do a little bit with technology. And actually, you know, I tried to, I tried to stick to a rule with my list of only doing one movie per director and I kind of broke that rule a little bit later. And I almost broke it twice. Because you'll know what I say after this, I was going to say that I feel like Gone Girl will be a classic.

7:58  
That was that was gonna be online. And I didn't put it because I picked another phone from

8:04  
the social network didn't I did and I knew,

8:07  
I knew that was gonna be one of the overlap, because not only is it a masterpiece, but it will be relevant for, you know, years to come. And it's like the beginning of the social media revolution that we've Yeah, I get it. Like, that was one of the two that I was certain. And I wanted to by the way, and I was like, that's like cheating.

8:26  
Let's pull up the list of movies I want to talk about like their IMDb pages. Before we started. I literally, like when I was setting up for the podcast, I typed in Gone Girl. And then I was just looking at it. And I was like, No, I wish but maybe maybe a costume. But definitely the social network. It's got to be if not the strongest and the top two to three strongest movies of the past of all the 2010s 2010 to 2020 I think it's easily easily it's got to be the most well made movie that that time. Yeah, you know, so for anyone who hasn't seen it. It is very loosely based on the true story of Mark Zuckerberg in the beginning of Facebook but and

9:07  
the Winklevoss twins come out with things like Gemini for crypto and stuff. So they're doing well but yeah, right, right, right.

9:15  
More so it's a it's about a two friends, one played by Jesse Eisenberg who plays out Mark Zuckerberg and one played by Andrew Garfield, who plays Eduardo. What was his last name?

9:28  
Eduardo Suarez. I don't remember how I'm going to look it up for you while you're talking.

9:36  
Thank God. And it really follows the story of how they really kind of accidentally come into Millie billions of dollars and revolution a lot. revolute Oh, my goodness long list. revolutionize the way that we communicate with each other. I'm

9:56  
Eduardo Saverin safarik.

9:59  
Thank you. Thanks You're welcome. And it very much follows it starts to follow a rise and fall story. But it's a rise and the fall kind of only happens in his personal life. There's not much of a personal fall there. But it's about a kid who continued to do what he thought he needed to do. He was always anti social, he was always kind of a jerk. And now because he kind of accidentally fell into something loosely, I say accidentally because it was built, but not in the way that he intended. Now, he feels that he deserves all the accolades and kind of how that makes his life fall apart a little bit socially.

10:34  
The irony, like the antisocial person builds the social network. It's such a great juxtaposition in life.

10:39  
Yeah, exactly. And I mean, you know, a lot of movies you can tell often when, when they're going for the awards, but this movie, it feels that way. It feels incredibly well made, it feels incredibly well shot. It's written by Aaron Sorkin. It's one of the most incredible scripts that I've seen on film in a very long time, but this movie feels like it was put together for all the accolades and it it deserves every single one of them.

11:05  
Yeah, like I mean, comparing one of the best screenwriters of our generation with one of the best if not arguably the best director of our generation. That's pretty. That's a pretty strong combo even on paper.

11:19  
Yeah. And Jesse Eisenberg has been playing this character ever.

11:28  
True, even even as Lex Luthor is very, like, performance like, right? Like, even though I actually really liked Jesse Eisenberg, I will say that Jesse Eisenberg, pretty much always is Jesse. It's very, it's kind of like Jack Nicholson, you love him. But he's found a way to most of the time, make all of his characters kind of him or at least Later, it became that way earlier in his career. What was it but like? Yes, just like, I feel like Morgan Freeman. You love him, but he's, he's Morgan Freeman. Like, I feel like that's kind of Jesse Eisenberg. Like he's, you hire him when you want Jesse Eisenberg is that?

12:02  
Yeah. I mean, Andrew Garfield, absolutely, bro. This movie feels like everything. Justin Timberlake does amazing, too. Yeah,

12:11  
this was the first movie where I was like, I like Justin Timberlake. Like, I love this music. But as an actor, I was like, He's alright. I don't really love him. But this movie, I was like, whoa, okay, nevermind, he's gotten a lot better. He's good. You know,

12:22  
I think this one down came down to two casting. I'm sure. Fincher had a huge kind of hand in that. And he really saw the actors he wanted for these characters. And yeah, man is it's funny because it feels it feels super dramatize, it feels incredibly dramatic, a little bit Shakespearean. But at the same time, you're dealing with people in sweat pants, and eventually button ups who are sitting in crowded rooms coding, you know what I'm

12:49  
very sure I will. I also feel like under just something I feel like an undervalued aspect of the film that is not talked about enough, is the editing. The editing in this film was magnificent. I mean, the way there are scenes in this film where it cuts between three timelines simultaneously, and it somehow does not make it feel jarring. It makes it feel so succinct, and like it's all meant to be that way. And that is hard to do that that's clearly planning from the director and the editor and like working together. You know, in that post production, it was magnificent. It's one of the best edited films I have ever seen. Like it is up there. Like yeah,

13:24  
I agree. And I think even for this to be a toss up, it was only gone girl that I was tossing up between tossing Zodiac in there, but I felt it was too old that it could already be considered a classic.

13:35  
For me, it was Gone Girl and seven, actually, but well, but yeah, but I thought son sevens already considered a class like it's already considered one of the best, like, serial killer threader thrillers of all time, I think so that seemed like yeah, that's not gonna work, right.

13:49  
I mean, if if you're comparing the movies that we just mentioned, he's clearly one of the best in the game. So yeah, I can't wait. Yeah, anything that David Fincher puts out, except you know, shame on me. I haven't seen mine yet on on Netflix. I haven't either. I haven't got around to it.

14:03  
I'm sure I haven't either. And also a lot of people on the podcast and some of my friends know. Ironically, a Quentin Tarantino is one of my favorite writers directors of all time. He is my favorite writer director. And none of his films actually made my list which is interesting like because like when I was thinking about it, like this list would be a lot longer and some of his would make it on but if there's just eight that I want to talk about, interestingly enough, as much as I love them, I Pulp Fiction could easily Pulp Fiction is already considered a classic. So I've his newer, newer movies, I think many of them including Django Unchained would be a classic but like for some reason I didn't put them on this list. So yeah, I don't know why, but I didn't so

14:41  
I did. I'm not gonna

14:44  
Django

14:48  
that's my first one. I love the social network. I've I've seen it a handful of times and for it to be strictly a two hour two and a half hour drama. It remains engaging all the way Through there's not a moment that maybe that feels boring and I think practically perfect.

15:05  
I think it is perfect. I think it's one of the most I'm with you. I think it's one of the most perfectly movies ever weighed, like, most masterpiece still have flaws, but you're fine with those flaws. This is a movie that I don't know if I found any flaw. Like it's like, like, it's rare that you say there's a movie that's flawless. It is one of them. But I've seen at least five times and I, every time I watch it, I'm more intrigued by it. Like I'm just more intrigued by how good it is like, you know, it's it's magnificent. Like, it really is. So that was my that was one I was like, I bet you were you were saying that I'm like, I'm sure it's gonna be like that forever. And the moment you said, I tried I tried to not pick two from the same directory said gone girls like I knew it was gonna be social network. I knew it. Yeah. Because that was gonna be one of mine too. Because the funny thing is, even though I think of social network, it's arguably a better movie. I like social networking Ganga equally like I love them. To me. They're both. Yeah, it's, yeah. Okay, so you did the social. So here's one that now one of these, I think would probably be on your list too. And this one's gonna be interesting to me. Because for by the rules that I set up earlier, in terms of what they talk about, and I feel like the one that's less popular, technically should be more of a classic, because when you come back to it, what it does, is universal and will always be something worth watching out for. So I'm gonna say both of these though, both midsummer and hereditary, I think hereditary ovarian mine. Yeah, I exam. I think hereditary is going to be a classic because it is exceptionally well made as well. But it was the more popular movie, it was the more accessible movie of the two. Yeah, by the definitions of coming back to a subject matter something that's relevant for years to come. I feel like midsummer knocks all of those out of the park in terms of like, not only is it masterfully made, but it puts you like the viewer is actually the perspective is almost like you're watching this and you're being manipulated by the cult along with everyone else, even though you actually get to see everything that's happening. By the end of the film, most people still have this odd feeling where you're kind of happy for her, which is odd because you shouldn't be the ending is a tragedy. But you're kind of happy for her because you've slightly been manipulated by all of the incidents that occurred. And then you end up hating another human being who you're totally fine with dying. Most of us are exempt even though even though we shouldn't be because he's just a garbage human. No, like, you know what I mean? Like, but yeah, we get some burden. Like, like the fact that it's a total masterclass. And first of all, the structure loves called hereditary as well. But it is a master class in manipulation and how it's almost like a really great inner workings of how cults work. And it secretly does a little bit of what they do most of them on you as a viewer. And it's something that I think is always worth coming back to. Because there are always going to be cults and fringe groups, and all kinds of things throughout history. I mean, I'm not trying to be rude, but every religion that exists, let's be honest, it started as a cult. And then it evolved and grew, and more people actually did believe in it and thought it was more real. And you know, they become something bigger than that. But like, everything starts small, some things end up doing good things, some don't. But the point is that like, knowing what you're looking at, and what you're experiencing, when it starts happening to you, I think it's important because those same kind of mannerisms work, for instance, in marketing and advertisement to this isn't just significant to these, but these kinds of manipulations in many ways, kind of exist across the spectrum of many people use these practices. So it's really good to watch because there are many red flags that will start popping up in your brain, the more you know about this stuff. And because I've researched this heavily, I'll be honest, just because I love psychology and stuff. When I was watching this movie, I was enthralled from the first 20 minutes and I was already pretty sure I knew where it was going like in the first 20 minutes, I knew exactly what was going to happen and how this was going to turn. And the funny thing is, it didn't ruin anything. Like everything was just just as good. Like there was no like, oh, I figured this out. Now this is boring. It's like no, it was still marvelous. In fact, it just made it more impressive because I'm like, I'm watching you do this to me. I'm accepting it because I get it already. But I'm down and you're so impressive with how you're doing this. And by the end I'm like, You are good. Yeah. It's fascinating. Like,

19:24  
totally I think the trick in that movie is what's what's pretty cool is right out the gate once you meet the the friend of the main character who eventually indoctrinates her into this call. There's immediately red flags. It's immediately shady. You know, everything's about to go bad. Yeah, the trick is that her current friend group is so emotionally cruel, like, friends or boyfriend is but I mean, yeah, the other friends aren't like directly emotionally cruel, but they are. Yeah, they're certainly not helpful. They're just kind of there and they don't they never intervene or any of those things. So it's watching this person who you know, is going towards something that's like evil, but it's also a lot warmer than what she's dealing with, sadly, sadly, exactly. So you're like, I mean, if that's if the choice is between the two of them, uh, you know, it might be a better choice.

20:21  
Think about it, that's how it is in real life. Not all the time. But a lot of times, people from troubled backgrounds or who've been through a lot, sometimes are considered easier targets by some of these people. Because, you know, you show people love that have been through a lot of pain, and they tend, you know, not always, but it's easier, it makes them more susceptible. Because, you know, like, like, and it's kind of awful, like, but if you think about the way the story is written, it's very similarly, like, what you're describing is exactly, like, you know, like, it's, it's sad, but it's true. Like they do that a lot to people. So, yeah, you're right on the money like for?

20:53  
Yeah, um, the only reason I didn't put midsummer Well, two reasons. One, I was trying to stick to my, to my one per director rule, and to oftentimes, I think it's really rare, especially in 2022 that we see something. I'm not saying this, I want to say it. What I'm trying to say is, even though midsummer is kind of a kind of follow up in our asters very art house kind of version of a cult movie, like The Wicker Man or Yeah, something along those lines, a lot of wicker men vibes. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, the that genre does not have nearly as much popularity or as much of a following as a classic haunting or possession movie. Yeah. So when I think midsummer, I think that I think heavy cult classic. Like I think people who love those movies will love this movie. yet. I don't know if it'll be looked back as much as hereditary as like, a genre piece. That's a That's a classic, you know, even though it deserves Yeah, like,

21:58  
I don't disagree with you. That's why I said them both together, because that's why I started by saying, legit, like, I'm sure hereditary will be because it was definitely the more popular one. But I feel like by the definition, midsummer should be but I don't think it's not as guaranteed like, like hereditary, or sure will be because it was a film that was just as good, but it was actually more popular. You know, like, like, it was quite popular among the horror circles. It's talked about all the time, like yep, so

22:25  
and then the only other reason that hereditary kind of got the leg up for me, is because like like many other classics, it has that powerhouse performance from Toni Collette. Where it does. Florence Pugh is incredible in midsummer, too. She's phenomenal. But she doesn't her character doesn't have that kind of explosiveness that Toni Collette gets throughout

22:48  
her characters more muted, muted and traumatized really in that thing. So she kind of she Yeah, she's definitely a lot more muted, but I mean, Kazmir character works, but I get what you're saying. Yeah, for sure.

22:59  
Yep. And then I just hope I don't think Ariosto I don't think his next movie is going to be a horror movie. But if he just wants to do one more to make this little area master kind of trilogy, I wouldn't be mad. I'm just saying.

23:11  
Yeah, the other one that's like, the other one. That's like Astor that's amazing. Kind of like that as Eggers and north, man, I'm ready, man. I'm ready. Venturing into a different kind of movie to I'm like, oh, let's go like Let's see this.

23:25  
Yeah, yeah, but I do know our astor's next movie. It's it's called disappointment Boulevard. I don't know what it's about. But it's starring Joaquin Phoenix, so just take my money.

23:35  
Yeah, I actually hadn't looked into what his next movie was. So that's interesting to look into that.

23:39  
Yeah, that should be pretty clear. Yeah, shout to credit, Jerry. And midsummer, for sure. I

23:44  
love movies. Fantastic.

23:47  
So by the definition of being, what was the piece of classic cinema that had to do with the relatability, or dialogue that you'd mentioned? There was a piece when you were describing classic movies, or maybe it just had to do with continuing to be relevant decades,

24:07  
continuing to be relevant even in the modern era. Yeah, like or worth coming back to? Because it's a time capsule of that time. That's good to when you come back to learn about the zeitgeist at that time, like, yeah,

24:18  
or fuck all that Mad Max Fury Road.

24:24  
By the way, that was actually gonna be on my list to do and I was like, I was literally like, I've already picked like seven or eight films. We need to make sure we can finish this in like an hour. So yeah, but definitely, it's the best action movie in the last probably 15 years like 10 easily like it's dude,

24:39  
I watched this a few months ago. I think maybe out of all the movies on my list. This is probably the one I've seen the most times. And it is the most incredible piece of action and filmmaking I think I've ever seen.

24:54  
Every time I watch it, I'm like, I'm surprised there's not like a list of how many people died making this

25:00  
Watch it like I've literally looked up how they accomplish this and I still don't believe it's real like I'm like you guys literally just brought cars into the desert wasn't rovers Yeah, it was

25:14  
a six year production line and then it was in post longer if you saw the original posters, it was very D saturated in a typical apocalyptic and in post they decided to go a totally different direction and come up with this beautiful vibrant color grade and then the day for night scenes the way they did that was all posts too. So it was like this whole negative negative thing from the sky and then they turn that into it was fascinating like like You totally did a revamp of the visual style in post and usually that's bad, but we did it so yeah, but usually in this case you did it so well. You made it more of a masterpiece than it probably would have been. It's visually stunning like it is. It is in the fact that you centered everything he's like Screw your stupid compositional rules about right and left thirds. I like everything in the center. You know why? Because then when you cut everything always matches and it does still looks beautiful. Just like so non traditional. It was fantastic. And honestly, Tom Hardy's great but I love that it ends up being a Furiosa story and she's always great. I love Charlie's there on so like, I just yeah, like it has all the elements. That is a fucking great

26:20  
movie. Yep. them just leering at each other and changing angrily will jumping on top of mower tankers won't need spears or being thrown at someone plays a flame thrower guitar.

26:33  
Yeah. Yeah, the guitar was wild straight.

26:37  
It's not even like it has downtime for no. It starts out absolutely insane like that really fast. JUMPY coach. shaky head and sanity?

26:47  
Yeah. Junkie XL score was great. That song? Yeah. Brothers and arms. Like I think I had that song on repeat for like three weeks after I watch them.

26:57  
Yeah. And for having a so little dialogue Tom Hardy and Charlie's. They're on plays so well off each other, which is funny. So I was just reading something that Oh, yeah. stand each other on?

27:06  
Yeah, I did. Oh, yeah. Like I think the report said like He came to set late a lot or something. And then she was upset about things. And yeah, it seemed like they were not getting along. But like they definitely I think the scenes where they're mad at each other is probably really great.

27:25  
Like, this is working. This is where I am sad to hear that Charlie's throne won't be in the seat. Well, I guess it leads you to the Furiosa story. And Anya Taylor Joy, I think is one of the great talents that that's what I do right now. So I think she's, I think she's great. I do I just love casting and just Yeah, but Charlie's there and especially as Furiosa in this role. Yeah. I want to see more of that. Me too.

27:49  
Dude, I totally like she's and she's been kickin athlete. lately. She's been doing all these films where like, she doesn't action scenes and does like almost all of her own stunts. And she's awesome. Like the old guard and atomic blonde. Like she's kicking ass, bro. Like, I love her. She's awesome, man. Yeah, she's a great actress, too. Like she's Yeah, she's a great actress.

28:09  
She really is, you know, movie I need to see of hers that I've actually never seen. That's I think it's like a most popular movie is Monster where she plays the serial killer.

28:16  
Yeah, so that's a film. I've seen all of like the key scenes from it, but I haven't seen the whole film either. I need to watch it. So yeah,

28:21  
I think it's on one of the streaming platforms that passed a couple weeks ago. That's what made me think of it. I was like, I never watched that,

28:27  
isn't it her and Christina Ricci? Yeah, yeah. No, it's like Christina Ricci to like, you know, it's a movie with her. It was a little sleeper that no one talks about I thought was wild and fun. Black Snake Moan was wild. Yeah, because she's like a nymphomaniac. And like the scene where he has her locked away to try to stop her from having sex to help her. And that salesman or whatever comes by almost like a monster movie scene where like, she gets in the pants come down, she wraps her legs around, the door shuts like a monster. I remember like, what is this movie, but I couldn't stop watching it. It was so fun. It was just a fun movie.

29:09  
That came out. Yeah. God that was a long time ago, wasn't it? Yeah.

29:16  
We're getting old man.

29:17  
Wasn't that a long time ago?

29:19  
It was one of those movies. It was randomly on I think the movie shelf a Hollywood video or whatever. And I was just like, Yeah, I'll just take that home and I expected to not think it was gonna be great and I could not stop watching it. I was like, this is like a fun wild weird pretty well made movie from what I remember. I was like, Man, that was crazy.

29:37  
Yeah, and funny of Mad Max is everything that the social network is not throw all the ones and kind of subtlety and interesting dialogue out the window. It is amazing for every other reason.

29:49  
You're not wrong. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. But it is magnificent, though. Like in its own light. Like Like, I would say the direction and like the visual style and honestly, that film probably has the best stunt work of all time. Like it is, like the stunt work. Like you said. It's unbelievable. It's wild. Like seeing the behind the scenes. It is just why only and I think he went and filmed it in Australia. And I think it's because you probably wouldn't be allowed to do they're like, hell no, there's no insurance company in the world that

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